That is what Socrates would do: he would quit only after he had fleshed out an idea and explored its implications. He wouldn’t just say, ‘Define envy for me,’ then, when his discourses interlocutor had ventured on a definition, say, ‘Wrong: your definiens is not extensionally equivalent to the definiendum’ – [10] technical terms which are incomprehensible and off – putting for the layman, and which we can’t resist using for that very reason. [11] As for using language that would enable even a non-philosopher, depending on his view, to answer with a simple yes or no – well, we don’t know how to engage anyone on that level. [12] And what happens is that we realize that we can’t do it and give up the attempt – those of us with any discretion, anyway. [13] Most people are impulsive, however, and, having committed to the thing, they persist, just making more confusion for themselves and others until it all ends in mutual recrimination.
Discourses 2.12.9
Today’s meditation
The underlying Stoic issue in this passage is the importance of thoughtful exploration and clarity in our pursuits. As Epictetus notes, Socrates wouldn't just accept a definition, but would instead "flesh out an idea and explore its implications" (Discourses 2.12.9). This reveals that living well requires a deep understanding of our thoughts and actions, rather than just superficially accepting things.
This passage highlights the danger of impulsive behavior, where we "persist, just making more confusion for ourselves and others" (Discourses 2.12.13). In contrast, Socrates' approach shows that true wisdom lies in taking the time to thoroughly examine our ideas and their consequences.
To apply this insight today, one could take a moment to reflect on their current goals and pursuits. Ask yourself: "Am I rushing into something without fully considering its implications?" or "Am I taking the time to truly understand what I'm getting myself into?" By doing so, you can cultivate a more thoughtful and intentional approach to life, one that is more in line with the Stoic values of wisdom and self-control.
As you go about your day, remember that "we can’t do it and give up the attempt" (Discourses 2.12.12) is not always a bad thing. Sometimes, recognizing our limitations and being willing to abandon a misguided pursuit is a sign of strength, not weakness. By embracing this mindset, you can avoid unnecessary confusion and instead focus on making progress towards your goals with clarity and purpose.